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- Acknowledgements -
This is a version I edited from
https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html
to make it "easier" for the average Joe to understand.

Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee
by VideoEditor
Edited by enso (original source added)
Disclaimer
The following is for educational and informational purposes only.

The forthcoming post is a 100% hypothetical scenario that I’ve generated based on the information that I’ve picked up doing research over time… I have never actually done any of the things listed in this thread, they could be illegal, and I do not want anyone else to do anything in this thread either as it could be illegal.
It is simply a fictitious story that I imagined.

Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee- The New Cure

A Universal Pill Extraction Technique


- Materials -
• One beaker or other heat proof glassware
(approximately 100ml for every box of pills used)
• One erlenmeyer flask or other heat proof glassware
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(approximately 100ml for every box of pills used)
• One graduated cylinder 100-200ml or other liquid measuring device in ml
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• One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used)
• Two 5" glass funnels or plastic fuel funnels
• One 5" wire mesh kitchen strainer (dollar store type)
• One 5ml baby medicine dropper
• Toilet paper (reg no scent)
• Glass stirring rod or wooden skewers
• Clean coffee grinder
• Hot plate or any heatsource without flame.
(No fucking gas stove tops for fuck sake)
• Small fan
• Small scale weighing in grams
• Safety glasses
• Latex gloves
• Activated carbon, research grade (pet stores sell this for fish tanks)
• Corn starch (supermarket)
• Dry acetone - CH3COCH3 (dried with baked sodium carbonate) ((if you read any of my other threads you will find an easy way to make this.))
• Sodium carbonate - Na2CO3 (washing soda)((soda ash))
• Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt)
• Sodium hydroxide - NaOH (lye)
• Lab grade Naptha - no substitutions (look at paint stores)
(Do Not use colemans, pet ether, lighter fluid, etc.)

- Optional Materials -

• Gassing setup if HCL salt is desired outcome
• Six pack of VB or pack of Winfield blue ciggerettes.

- Procedure outline -
• Combine Pills with activated carbon, NaCl, NaOH and Na2CO3.
• Grind to a fine powder and sift through strainer.
• Stir in acetone.
• Add trace amount of water.
• Mix until paste.
• Add corn starch.
• Mix until consistency of damp potting soil.
• Dry completely.
• Add naptha.
• Heat to boiling while stirring.
• Filter thru toilet paper filter.
• Repeat two times
• Freeze filtrate.
• Filter out crystals.
• Convert to salt form if desired.

- Standard Procedure -


01: Weigh pills and record total weight.

02: Place pills into a clean coffee grinder.

03: For every box of pills used add:
• 2 grams of washing soda
• 2 grams of salt
• 4 grams of activated carbon
• 4 grams sodium hydroxide

You may ask:
• (Q) What if it all won't fit in the coffee grinder?
(A) Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a time.

• (Q) Why am I adding salt?
(A) To attract water and to act as an abrasive to aid in grinding.

• (Q) Why am I adding washing soda?
(A) To act as a buffering agent.

• After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift well?
Activated Carbon sold for aquarium filtration may contain excess moisture.
The moisture content will be apparent when the carbon is ground. Moist carbon will tend to cake on the side of the grinder, and will feel moist.
If the carbon is moist, dry it before use by heating in an oven or microwave.
Take precautions handling the heated carbon to avoid burns.
Allow the carbon to cool before grinding or combining with other ingredients.
You can store any unused dried carbon in an air tight container.

04: Grind the mixture to a fine powder. Its important that we grind the mixture as fine and uniformly as possible, about the consistency of coarse flour.

05: Sift the mixture into the beaker using a wire mesh strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize dusting.
Protip: When grinding and sifting be careful with vents, fans and open windows so your pseudo doesn't blow away as dust.
(You also dont want to inhale NaOH or carbon dust.)
Just let the dust settle in the coffee grinder before opening the lid.

06: For every gram of total pill mass add:

• 1.5ml dry acetone.
This measurement will get you in the ball park. We want the mixture to be a liquid at this point, not a paste.

• Add more acetone in small increments as the mixture will go from stiff to fluid very quickly.

Acetone used for this purpose should be dried before use.

07: For every box of pills used add while stirring:
• 3 drops DH2O (use a medicine dropper)

You may ask:
• (Q) Why are we using dry acetone and then adding water?
(A) Since the amount of moisture present is critical for proper basing, and the water content of non-dried acetone is widely variable, the only way to accurately control the moisture available for basing is to dry the acetone first, then add a measured amount of water.

08: Stir with a glass rod or wooden skewer for about 3 to 4 minutes.
The mixture will slowly thicken to a wet paste.

09: For every box of pills used add:
• 1.0 gram corn starch.

10: Stir for a few minutes.
The mixture will become very stiff and the consistency of damp potting soil, with no signs of visible liquid.

Add more cornstarch in very small increments if nessesary.
Why the cornstarch?
The cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture fast.
(When drying the cornstarch will keep our mixture from turning into hard little rocks and when powdered again keeps the mixture free flowing.)
((It also helps absorb waxy gak when we extract our free base.))

11: Spread out the mixture on the pyrex plate(s) and let it dry completely.
(It will dry fast because the carbon has increased the surface area of our mixture.)

12: When completely dry sift the mixture back into the beaker using the wire mesh strainer placed inside a large funnel.

13: For every box of pills used add:
• 35ml Naptha

14:
• Mix well. Then place the beaker on your Heat source and set to med high heat.
• With constant gentle stirring, heat the mixture until boiling.
• Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute.
• Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the solids settle out for a few minutes.

BUT ISN'T BOILING NAPTHA DANGEROUS?
Boiling any flammable solvent is an extremely dangerous practice.
Solvents should not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is capable of producing a spark.
This includes defective or damaged electric hot plates.
Adequate ventilation is required.
(This should not be done in a closed environment due to risk of explosion and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation of solvent fumes.)
The constant use of a fan positioned to blow across the solvent will disburse the vapor, reduce the risk of fire and explosion.

-From here on I will refer toilet paper to tP-

15:
• While waiting, make your tP filter.
Take 4 plys of tP and fold three times to make a square.
• Fold that over once and then once again to make a quarter square.
• Completely wet the square with some clean naptha using the medicine dropper and place the tP filter into the bottom of funnel across the neck.
(The tP should not be "packed" or "compressed".)
• Gently mold the edges around the contour of the funnel bottom.
• Wet it again with naptha and place this filter-funnel into the erlenmeyer flask.(heat proof glass container)

16:
• Slowly decant the naptha into the funnel in small amounts and allow it to filter through the tP filter into the flask.

(Don't pour in more than can pass through the filter in more or less real time. If you make a big puddle it may start to crystalize in the funnel clogging the filter.)
((The filtered naptha should be crystal clear.))

•Free base crystals will start to form in the filtrate. Set the flask aside.

17: For every box of pills used add:
• 20ml Naptha

18:
• Mix well.
• Place the beaker on your Heat source and set to med high heat.
• With constant gentle stirring, heat the mixture until boiling.
• Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute.
• Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the solids settle out for a minute.

19:
• Slowly decant the naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and allow it to filter through the tP filter into the flask combining filtrates.
• Don't pour in more than can pass through the tP filter in more or less real time.
Do not replace the tP, continue to re-use the same pad.

20: For every box of pills used add:
• 10ml Naptha

21:
• Mix well.
• Place the beaker on the hot plate set to med high heat.
• With constant gentle stirring, heat the mixture until boiling.
• Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Remove from hot plate.

22:
• Slowly decant the naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and allow it to filter through the filter into the flask combining filtrates.
• Empty the entire contents of the beaker into the filter funnel and let drain.

23:
• While draining boil a small amount of naptha about 5 ml for every box of pills used.
• When all the liquid appears to have drained through, pour the boiling naptha over the filter cake and let it drain again.
• Now take a large spoon and press down on top of filter cake squeezing any remaining naptha into the flask.
You may ask:
(Q) Should I do a fourth pull?
• (A)You can try but tests have shown its usually not enough gain to justify the effort.

Only do additional pulls if the end result is less than 45%

24:
• Place the erlenmeyer flask (heat proof glass container) with the combined filtrate on the hot plate set to med high.
• Heat to boiling or until all crystals have re-dissolved.
•Pour the hot filtrate into clean pyrex plate(s).

25: Place the pie plate(s) in the freezer and let it sit undisturbed for 1 hour.

26:
• Remove the pyrex plate(s) from the freezer and pour off the used naptha filtering out free base crystals using a coffee filter.
• Let the collected free base crystals dry.
(Some crystals may adhere to the pie plate. Let them dry before removing.)

27:
• After filtering crystals out return the used naptha to the beaker. Return all filtered solids including the tP filter to the beaker.
• Break solids up with your rod and mix well.
• Return to hot plate on med high heat. With constant gentle stirring bring the used mixture back to boiling. Let boil for 1 minute.
• Turn heat off but leave beaker on hot plate.
• Make a new tP filter as per previous step 15. •Filter liquid first, then add remaining solids to funel to drain.
• Take a large spoon and press down on top of filter cake squeezing any remaining naptha into the flask.
• Place into freezer again for at least 30 minutes. Some bees have been picking up a few extra percent and it helped recover one botched batch that would of been poor otherwise.

28:
The remaining naptha does contain some additional pseudoephedrine free base.

•You may wash the naptha thoroughly with warm distilled water and titrate to obtain the remaining pseudoephedrine in HCL form.
(This pseudoephedrine HCL will not be as clean as the free base, and will need to be rinsed with acetone, then recrystallized twice before being added to a reaction.)

• The use of this pseudoephedrine with the free base is not recommended. This pseudoephedrine HCl can be accumulated until the quantity is sufficient to react by itself.

29:
• If the HCL salt is the desired outcome, redissolve the free base crystals in to a non polar and gas accordingly.
Do Not gas the original Naptha.
(If you gas the original naptha you will pick up unwanted contaminants.)

• You may alternatively move the free base crystals into a small quantity of dH2O and add HCl drop wise with stirring until the free base crystals all dissolve.
• Evaporate over low heat until this alligators over, then wash with dry acetone.
(Filter the acetone and pseudoehphedrine HCL though a coffee filter, rinse with acetone, allow to dry.)

- Calculating Yield -
When calculating your yield remember to adjust for free base.
• Pseudo HCl is about 202gr per mole and psuedo free base is about 166gr per mole.
• So 166 divided by 202 is a ratio of 0.82 So potential yield from 1 box of 120's would be 20 x 120 x 0.82 = 1.9 grams free base vs 2.4 grams for psuedo HCl.

- Advantages and Disadvantages -

• The technique should be, for the near future, virtually universal. It should successfully extract most pseudoephedrine pills.
• The materials are easily available and draw less attention than xylene and tolulene purchases.
• Yields should range in the sixty percent range.
• The pseudoephedrine so obtained will be very clean--characteristic of A/B extractions of pseudoephedrine.
• The main disadvantage is heating a flamable solvent.

Has shown to be effective with pills containing the following ingredients:
_______________________________ 30 mg "red hots,"
whether name brand or generic
_______________________________ Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg
Tripolidine 2.5 mg
corn starch
Flavor
Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose
lactose
Magnesium Stearate
Polyethylene glycol
potato starch
providone
sucrose
titanium dioxide
patent no. 5098715
210CA01
_______________________________
Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg
Tripolidine 2.5 mg
Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose
Magnesium Stearate
Polyethylene glycol
starch
titanium dioxide
may also contain:
cellulose
Dioctyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate
Hydroxypropyl cellulose
lactose
Polysorbate 80
providone
powdered cellulose
pre gelatinized starch
silica gel
silicon dioxide
sodium starch glycolate
stearic acid
_______________________________
Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg
Tripolidine 2.5 mg
carnauba wax
corn starch
flavor
Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose
lactose
Magnesium Stearate
Polyethylene glycol
providone
sucrose
_______________________________
Pseudoephedrine Hcl 120 mg
Candellia Wax
Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose
Magnesium Stearate
Micro crystalline Cellulose
Polyethylene glycol
providone
titanium dioxide
_______________________________
Pseudoephedrine Hcl 240 mg
Candellia Wax
Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose
Magnesium Stearate
Micro crystalline Cellulose
Polyethylene glycol
providone
titanium dioxide
_______________________________
- Time -
• You run it in about 3 hours start to finish, 4 hours with the fourth pull.
• The first few times I would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of it.

here's the bottom line on yield.
• Each box of pills used has the potential or 1.9 grams of free base.
• This is equivalent to 2.4 grams of the HCL salt.
• The average bee with fair lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1 gram of super clean free base per box or 52%.
• The experienced bee with good lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1.2 grams of super clean free base per box or 63% - 65% seems to bee the wall in its current form,

Crystallization can take two different forms.
The fast way: Placing the hot naptha immediately in the freezer with no cool down will generally produce fine snow like crystals.

If your not in a hurry: let the naptha cool to about room temperature before placing into the freezer and you will generally get large sparkling beauties.

Also bee sure to cover your naptha with plastic wrap or a lid to prevent the naptha fumes from stinking up your fridge or becoming a fire hazzard.

Comments

  • Will it remove Dibutyl phthalate? Didn't see that one in the list.
  • You did not write that you fake. I remember that from the hive you fake
  • He couldn't possibly tell you because he doesn't really know! It's all he knows how to do besides get high. Pathetic
  • edited January 10
    I'm not even going reply to most of your drunk ass unreadable comments but here goes...

    We have been through this before and you ended up appoligizing now you start again?? What you got so drunk you forgot last time...

    I'm no fake and if you actually read the thread I got this from erowid you fuck wit and if you actually could read past the first line you would have seen that I gave reference to the original writer you fuck head!!!

    You obviously were either to drunk to read or... You are a illiterate.

    Which would actually make sense because your drunk ass rambling makes no sense either...

    If anyone has anymore than two brain cells they will be able to see right through your jealousy... You just ramble on... You clearly can't make any good gear because your always coming around drunk talking shit... You are nothing but a keyboard warrior...

    NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THEADS AND GO FUCK YOUR INBRED SISTER AGAIN BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY THING YOUR GOOD AT....
    PEACE
  • enso the stb is old
    the only that work now is stb3, the pickled p
  • Jealous of what? Hahaha lol. I love that me drunk and rambling gets you to call me illiterate as you use bad grammar, but I'm not grading your papers, I'm letting everyone know you're a fraud. You're a clown, and you're going down for it. Two others on here back me on the knowledge you're a fraud, you lost. Now own up, write your own report now, FROM SCRATCH.
  • Keyboard warrior.. Wow I actually like that one hehe. That's like what we called the bitches in lock up that talked shit doorillas, bc they talked all that behind a door... Anyways, I long for the day I see you in person. The keyboard thing is the first original thing I ever heard you say. Keep that shit up! Good work!
  • I apologized because it's the high road. It's the right thing to do. Just like admitting when you're wrong, especially when you're caught. I had already seen that you copy pasted my mans shit and claimed as your own that I didn't read any post here. I just went ahead and let you have it. Don't ever call a man illiterate because he wrote shit you didn't like. You just look stupid especially after calling them halfwit and what not. An illiterate wouldn't be able to write hello. I don't claim to be Einstein , I don't claim much at all anymore. But my word is my bond and you can count on what I say as gospel. I came back mad about the fact you told someone you were li. Ooh man, you fucked with some real people boy.
  • Even weirder than that, I saw my observation on kmno4 solution used to oxidize cmp that the dea uses to isolate suspected methamphetamine lab chemicals from chemicals that can make their efforts fruitless at best, filthy at worst. Permanganate doesn't just oxidize cmp, but also pse that didn't cook so you end up w super pure meth w a dash of methcathinone (sounds good). If you did the reaction right then during gassing you will observe strong rotation in a counterclockwise manner. This is because of that wonderful, marvelous aspect of meth : chirality. The dextro rotary molecules all adding to the collective rotation offer the most attractive hurricane model I've ever seen. I can't remember much of 2012, but what I can often takes me back to that lovely, filthy garage where I both found and lost myself, quite possibly forever.
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