The role of drugs in the fall of Communism

RemadERemadE Global Moderator
edited December 2010 in Spurious Generalities
Hai guise!
I have just been allocated my Study Module era, and it is the Fall of Communism in Eastern Europe. We have been told to come up with something individual and original. I wondered if it would be possible to even begin looking at the role drugs such as LSD and other "well known" drugs driving the revolutionary feelings across the Continent, and aiding in the Fall of Communism.

Feedback?

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  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    Drugs had nothing to do with the fall of the USSR. They broke apart because of the rampant corruption that evolved to it's highest level under Brezhnev. The rise in nationalism among non Russians was also a contributer as well as economic stagnation. I also blame Gorbachev and his Glasnost program which allowed to much freedom of speech.

    Perestroika another of Gorbachevs policies made the economy worse as well. Drugs had absolutely nothing to with the collapse so if thats what your writing about I suggest a different reason then drugs. Also what the hell does LSD have to do with the soviet union collapsing? It was used in secret mind control studies and nothing else.
  • edited December 2010
    Drugs had nothing to do with the fall of the USSR. They broke apart because of the rampant corruption that evolved to it's highest level under Brezhnev. The rise in nationalism among non Russians was also a contributer as well as economic stagnation. I also blame Gorbachev and his Glasnost program which allowed to much freedom of speech.

    Perestroika another of Gorbachevs policies made the economy worse as well. Drugs had absolutely nothing to with the collapse so if thats what your writing about I suggest a different reason then drugs. Also what the hell does LSD have to do with the soviet union collapsing? It was used in secret mind control studies and nothing else.

    Bingo.

    Unfortunately, OP's professor is a sovietist who refuses to admit that communism ever could possibly ever conceivably ever fail ever and wants to blame the collapse on something else.

    Shame too, because Sanchez is 100% correct here.
  • RemadERemadE Global Moderator
    edited December 2010
    Bingo.

    Unfortunately, OP's professor is a sovietist who refuses to admit that communism ever could possibly ever conceivably ever fail ever and wants to blame the collapse on something else.
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    Ok I didn't really explain it that well. However, Fatty, you do have a point as my Lecturer is a Belarusian Zionist who once put me on an "extreme behaviour" watchlist for writing an Anti-Zionist essay. Sure it got a good grade, but it really pissed off most of my History lecturers as they are all retarded "diversity loving" idiots.

    My original post was supposed to be phrased as if to ask was there any plausible way that drugs could be linked with the Fall of Communism in Eastern European nations? Basically I get to choose a specialist area WITHIN the broad umbrella term of "the Fall of Communism in East Europe", and was going to see if this specific area could have been feasable as a research proposal.

    Edit; DirtySanchez, it's 60/40 with your way of seeing my reasons. Sure I have experimented with drugs, but I just like to find alternate views on historical events. As said earlier, my essay which was an Anti-Zionist piece was born of the question "Who won WW2" and I argued the Jews did. Might not think that from the way I come across at times.
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    RemadE wrote: »
    Ok I didn't really explain it that well. However, Fatty, you do have a point as my Lecturer is a Belarusian Zionist who once put me on an "extreme behaviour" watchlist for writing an Anti-Zionist essay. Sure it got a good grade, but it really pissed off most of my History lecturers as they are all retarded "diversity loving" idiots.

    My original post was supposed to be phrased as if to ask was there any plausible way that drugs could be linked with the Fall of Communism in Eastern European nations? Basically I get to choose a specialist area WITHIN the broad umbrella term of "the Fall of Communism in East Europe", and was going to see if this specific area could have been feasable as a research proposal.

    Edit; DirtySanchez, it's 60/40 with your way of seeing my reasons. Sure I have experimented with drugs, but I just like to find alternate views on historical events. As said earlier, my essay which was an Anti-Zionist piece was born of the question "Who won WW2" and I argued the Jews did. Might not think that from the way I come across at times.


    Their is absolutely zero way drugs can fit into the fall of the USSR. If you need a specialized topic then your best bet would be to use Nationalism or Corruption. In my opinion Khrushchev was the last good Soviet leader. After him the corruption and mismanagement of the economy started and it entered a death spiral with Gorbachev being the final nail in the coffin.
  • boggleboggle Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    If you want a more "unique" reason why the iron border broke try making the topic around fashion, it was very uniform in the eastern states so you could probably make some shit up about underground fashion revolutions, where in reality they were just wearing different shoes than everyone else...
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    boggle wrote: »
    If you want a more "unique" reason why the iron border broke try making the topic around fashion, it was very uniform in the eastern states so you could probably make some shit up about underground fashion revolutions, where in reality they were just wearing different shoes than everyone else...

    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
  • boggleboggle Acolyte
    edited December 2010
    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

    Because it's so much worse than the drug theory? Women and clothes is one hell of a strong force.
  • MayberryMayberry Regular
    edited December 2010
  • MooseKnuckleMooseKnuckle Regular
    edited December 2010
    i want to rub my sack all over her.. :fap:
  • DirtySanchezDirtySanchez Regular
    edited December 2010
    boggle wrote: »
    Because it's so much worse than the drug theory? Women and clothes is one hell of a strong force.

    Both theories are fucking retarded. Some of you people really need to learn some history before you speak.
  • LuxJigabooLuxJigaboo Regular
    edited December 2010
    Drugs had nothing to do with the fall of the USSR. They broke apart because of the rampant corruption that evolved to it's highest level under Brezhnev. The rise in nationalism among non Russians was also a contributer as well as economic stagnation. I also blame Gorbachev and his Glasnost program which allowed to much freedom of speech.

    Perestroika another of Gorbachevs policies made the economy worse as well. Drugs had absolutely nothing to with the collapse so if thats what your writing about I suggest a different reason then drugs. Also what the hell does LSD have to do with the soviet union collapsing? It was used in secret mind control studies and nothing else.

    This.

    The increased corruption and weakening of the soviet government most likely led to the increased access and spread of drugs, and popular western style clothes such as jeans or shoes etc. Not the other way around.

    While I do remember reading some vague information about groups of people that formed to use drugs as a means to escape from their harsh conditions, I doubt that some group like this could ever collapse a government.
  • RemadERemadE Global Moderator
    edited December 2010
    Kinda glad I got flamed now. My project now has to fall within the bracket of "Post-War Britain", so anything from 1945 to 2000.

    Might look at one of the following

    - Falklands War
    - Poll Tax Riots (and the legislation behind it, motivation for etc)
    - Keynesian Politics/Economics
    - The rise of the Right
    - Terrorism/Ireland
  • edited December 2010
    RemadE wrote: »
    Kinda glad I got flamed now. My project now has to fall within the bracket of "Post-War Britain", so anything from 1945 to 2000.

    Might look at one of the following

    - Falklands War
    - Poll Tax Riots (and the legislation behind it, motivation for etc)
    - Keynesian Politics/Economics
    - The rise of the Right
    - Terrorism/Ireland

    Talk about how moslems and blacks are turning it into an anarchic and violent prison island under sharia
  • NegrophobeNegrophobe Regular
    edited December 2010
    Talk about how moslems and blacks are turning it into an anarchic and violent prison island under sharia

    I've written a 50page+ article on racism, what it is and why we shouldn't be afraid to be racist. It refutes pretty much every common anti-racist argument. I can help you out if you do it on this OP.

    There's some info on the falklands war and the poll tax and Margaret Thatcher in my thread on women leaders and why they suck(ed) ass.
  • dr rockerdr rocker Regular
    edited December 2010
    RemadE wrote: »
    Kinda glad I got flamed now. My project now has to fall within the bracket of "Post-War Britain", so anything from 1945 to 2000.

    Might look at one of the following

    - Falklands War
    - Poll Tax Riots (and the legislation behind it, motivation for etc)
    - Keynesian Politics/Economics
    - The rise of the Right
    - Terrorism/Ireland

    Write an essay about how the British should have accepted Ian Smith's decleration of independence in 1965 and the international community should have supported his government.

    There would be a fuck lot less suffering, under nourishment and aids.

    If he tries to make your argument sound racist, telll him that the conclusion of the opposite of your argument has resulted in several broken countries.
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