Juche
DirtySanchez
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The Government of the Republic will
implement with all consistency the line
of independence, self-sustenance, and
self-defense to consolidate the political
independence of the country (chaju),
build up more solidly the foundations
of an independent national economy
Juche is an ideal that was Kim Il sung's greatest contribution to Marxist thought. In my opinion Juche is the next logical step of Stalinism and expands on Stalins idea of "socialism in one country". Juche means "spirit of self-reliance". Juche is the idea that a country must be self reliant and it rejects the Globalism that is so prominent in modern capitalism.
I believe that the cult of personality around Kim Il Sung in the DPRK is unacceptable but aside from that he was one of the greatest leaders the world has known and one of the greatest Marxist theoreticians of all time.
It's an idea that needs to be adopted in America if we are to survive as a nation. Instead of outsourcing everything we need to produce our own goods. We need to stop our reliance on foreign oil and produce our own energy. We have a huge resource of oil in Alaska or example but thanks to liberals we don't drill it. This dependence on the rest of the world will spell our demise.
You can choose to believe the bullshit propaganda about North Korea if you want. And yes most of it is bullshit or we as a country can try to create a system more like theirs. North Korea is slandered because they choose to remain independent and forge their own destiny. The same cannot be said of modern day America.
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Here are 38 facepalms, a tiny fraction of the number of facepalms I would give this thread were it not for the image limit.
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It's a philosophy that can be suited towards any race. In Americas case it should be the white race.It's a theory of independence and nationalism.
Then surely you must support black nationalism in the United States, since it can be suited towards white nationalism in the United States. Here's another 38 facepalms:
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I do support Black Nationalists. They at least realize that the races are not compatible and I would even support giving them a republic in the south provided all blacks move their. I do completely reject the idea that they deserve reparations but if they want to govern themselves then fine they can live like haiti and save whites the headache of dealing with them. It would actually be a good thing for the white race imo. But this thread isn't about race only. It's about how the North Korean model of government is superior to Americas capitalist system. Most o the bad things you here about North Korea are propaganda pieces put forth because NK reuses to submit to the Capitalist imperialist powers of the west.
I support any nationalist group because they accept racial differences as truth. I would prefer if all niggers would become nationalists and go back to Africa. It sure as hell beats all this "all the races are equal and we should all live together" bullshit. But this is getting off topic and it's not a thread about race so I'll just leave it at that.
As a fascist, where alot of them came from socialist/Marxist backgrounds; I can have sympathies for socialism in one country; more specifically national bolshevism and its stance against capitalism, other than the fact I believe in corporatism and national syndicalism and no class conflicts.
I read some interesting ideas from Kim Il Sung: "To make revolution in Korea we must know Korean history and geography as well as the customs of the Korean people. Only then is it possible to educate our people in a way that suits them and to inspire in them an ardent love for their native place and their motherland".[2] Kim focuses on the importance of education and learning Korean history. Through the education of Korean people's own history will it "stimulate their national pride and rouse the broad masses to revolutionary struggle".[3] Kim talks throughout his speech bulleting monumental events of the past and how certain outcomes could have been prevented. He stresses the importance of remembering their struggle, and that not learning their past, or denying it would "mean that our people did nothing.
That is a very important part to consider for any ideology which claims to be revolutionary, in my case fascism. Re-education and history plays an important part.
Anti-revisionism (Stalinism) in regards to communism/soviet union is the more logical choice out of the lot; it'd be easy for fascists to not have some respect and moral ties with. Giovanni Gentile (the ghost writer of The doctrine of fascism) actually admired Karl Marx, whilst disagreeing on the class issue. I'm of the opinion that Stalin would have made a good fascist also, if not a communist; his leadership skills were excellent.
Isolationism is a key point of idealistic fascism, this is what I like about North Korea and its form of communism. Basically, dictatorship of any kind is always prefered and always works better. The individual even enjoyed far more liberty in Europe under the monarchs than in America, today (which is supposedly "free". If you doubt this I suggest becoming familiar with Edmund Burke, Thomas Carlyle, Herbert Spencer, and the work of Otto von Habsburg, The Social Order of Tomorrow. Fascism is all well and good, but it takes a great secularist leader with charisma and leadership skills and love for the nation like Saddam, Mussolini, Stalin, Kim Jong-Il and in some ways, more mildy, Hugo Chavez.
Mussolini's was the only real form of fascism; societies like Ancient Rome were proto-fascist, although we can call Caesar a fascist, he's seen by many to be one of the greatest leaders ever. As long as it is not religious, politically correct and globalist dictatorship then it works. Purging the primitive and bourgeois-liberalist ideologies such as feminism and all forms of egalitarianism, Islam and political correctness, and after some time implementing state atheism, is a must. We must make a break with the past and primitive ideologies that have put us in this dark age of class conflict, feminism/matriarchy and social marxism.
Fascism is the way to manhood and a new breath of fresh life and strength through national unity. No class conflict, class diversity is good.
Yeah.
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Thanks for not being retarded and actually posting something with substance. So far it looks like this thread with all the off topic stupidity posted would have had better luck on 4chan.
Anyway you are right in saying we couldn't do this overnight. First and more importantly imo is changing the US system itself and then adopting the Juche philosophy. I don't agree with you that the entire world would declare war on America though just because we stopped trading. We could benefit from having a system more like DPRK in more ways than just Independence though. It also would bring back a long lost nationalism in this country and we would be better off in a militaristic Socialist type society moddeled off of Stalinism and Juche.
It would take a miracle to change the minds of that many people. It would take years of political campaigns from several new parties working together. It could be done but not in less than a decade. As for the war, it wouldn't be America vs the world but once one pissed off country decided to grow balls it would startba chain reaction. You're right, the entire world wouldn't be against us but we wouldn't have any allies unless we begged. Brittain might help and perhaps a few countries we've been super nice to but for the most we'd be on our own. It would be a long tough road but not impossible. I still think an attempt would be more harmful but agree that the long lost nationalism should be reawakened. 9/11 made it flare up like a pimple but then it popped unfortunately.
I wasn't trolling when I posted that. North Korea is hardly successful in isolation.
The people are starving and the country is dependent on aid from other countries.
Shit I missed that post in the flood of facepalm:p Most o what you hear about North Korea is lies. They've had hardships mainly due to droughts and floods beyond their control and illegal sanctions adopted by the UN. The globalists fear a regime that doesn't bow to imperialism and remains nationalist, socialist and independent. That's why all you here about are the bad things.
Sanctions shouldn't even effect a self-sufficient country.
This is true but when circumstances beyond state control happen such as the floods and drought outside trade may be needed temporarily and that doesn't mean the country isn't still self reliant.
Thats not really a good comparison because unlike North Korea New Orleans isn't a country. It's a city within America and America as a whole was not hit by Katrina.
To get an instant understanding of the differences in the development and progress of the ROK and the DPRK one need only look at the following night time satellite photo of the Korean Peninsula.
Isn't it strange how the electricity stops right at the 38th? That is because the DPRK is a very similar economic position as Cuba. They do not have the resources to gather the resources needed to keep the power on 24/7. But look at Seoul, right there in the Northwest corner of the ROK. That sucker is lite up at least 100 times more than the entire DPRK.
Hell even Castro has admitted that communism does not work. That is from a guy who tried to make it work for 49 years. Do you or those who are in favor of communism know something about it that he didn't?
As I stated before weather and climate problems were a huge reason behind the famine. Just because they have fallen on hard times as a country doesn't mean that the system is a failure. When the great depression happened does that mean to you that capitalism fails? There are major flaws in the DPRK such as the massive personality cult.
One other thing to remember is that North Korea has been forced to spend a huge amount on their military. They have to do this because of repeated provocations from the South Koreans. You can't deny that the actions o the south have been provocative with their deploying forces on the border and their drills so close to North Korean territory. America doesn't belong in the Korean peninsula it isn't our fight.
As far as Castro saying communism doesn't worked do you have a source for that? I'm not saying your lying it's just that I haven't heard this before
It is a well known fact that the DPRK has nation wide rolling blackouts.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,366219,00.html
http://www.indexmundi.com/north_korea/electricity_production.html
http://impunitywatch.com/?p=16526
http://www.nkeconwatch.com/category/energy/electricity/
http://cisac.stanford.edu/publications/north_koreas_choice_bombs_over_electricity/
While that is likely true, have you ever stopped to wonder why tha might be?
But it did not fail, in less than 12 years capitalism emerged from the "Great Depression" (globally) even stronger that it was before. How many communist nation can make that claim? Please to not say China as their economy was shit until they opened up the markets a great deal.
Correction, the DPRK entered into an arms race that it could not win. What has happened between the ROK and the DRPK is a mini version of what occurred between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. And just as in that race capitalism will win because government can not create wealth it can only spend it. To create wealth you need a private sector.
Take your pick..
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS255&=&q=castro+admits+communism+failed&aq=0&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=castro+admits
It's because the west and the imperialists fear an Independence socialist state. America claims NK is evil yet has supported dictatorships in the past such as the Shah of Iran and Pinochet in Chile after he assassinated the democratically elected Marxist president in Chile.
I believe it was the new deal that saved us from the great depression. The new deal implemented logical government intervention that goes against what lazy faire stands for.
This was an arms rave they were forced to enter because of threats rom SK and an American presence in the peninsula that can't be justified. You can't deny that a lot of the actions taken by Nouth Korea have been clearly provocations on the part of ROK and America.
Take your pick..
He said he rejected the Cuban model socialism and not socialism as a whole. Lenins new economic policy was similar but it didnt mean he became anti communist.
The fact that the U.S. has supported assholes in power does not change the fact that the DPRK's policies of the last 60 years are what is responsible for their current economic chaos.
Beliefs are for religion and spirituality. The fact is that the New Deal was first implemented in 1933. The Great Depression did not begin to recover until late in 1940 due to increased demand in the manufacturing sector as a result of initiatives related to WWII such as the Lend Lease Act and other programs which sent goods and weapons to soon to be allies. It was war that pulled the world of of the depression. The socialist programs created by the FDR administration were the beginning of our current day economic mess. All you need to do is look at the economic history of the last 94 years and it becomes crystal clear that the more a nation moves towards communism the more it's economy suffers.
It comes back to the state cannot create wealth they can only tax it and spend it. That is why Obama's stimulus didn't do shit to help. It takes a strong private sector to create wealth.
So what you are saying is that the U.S. should have just left in the 50's so Russia and China could have supported the destruction of the ROK at the hands of the DPRK.
No where does he say that he thinks socialism could work if applied differently. This is a man who has tried to make socialism/communism work for 49 years and has had a free hand to do as he wishes. So tell me, what do you think you know about socialism/communism that he doesn't?
http://www.iacenter.org/Koreafiles/korea_accomp.htm