Australian Federal Election[2010]
Silosighbin
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Any Aussies out there!?
This will be my first time voting in 2010 and am not really sure who I should vote for. Each party seems to have the same old election promises and purposefully make them ambiguous. For those that don't know I'll post pictures of the proposed Prime Ministers from the 2 main political parties.
Julia Gillard - Labor Party
Tony Abbott - Liberal Party
I've pretty much figured that each party is dirty and twists their public image to gain support. And for this it makes me uneasy to choose. I'm almost thinking i'll vote 1 for The Greens just to screw the other parties over. There has been stuff on the news where it's expected Greens will gain record support this election, but not sure how they get this info.
Any other Aussies out there who can help?
This will be my first time voting in 2010 and am not really sure who I should vote for. Each party seems to have the same old election promises and purposefully make them ambiguous. For those that don't know I'll post pictures of the proposed Prime Ministers from the 2 main political parties.
Julia Gillard - Labor Party
Tony Abbott - Liberal Party
I've pretty much figured that each party is dirty and twists their public image to gain support. And for this it makes me uneasy to choose. I'm almost thinking i'll vote 1 for The Greens just to screw the other parties over. There has been stuff on the news where it's expected Greens will gain record support this election, but not sure how they get this info.
Any other Aussies out there who can help?
Comments
No party is perfect, politics is mostly bullshit, but at least the Greens aren't too corrupt.
Oh, and Caesar, the Greens are like borderline decriminalisation - they go this far at least:
Of course you can trust pollies about as far as you can throw them.
I don't even know why I'm replying to you, but you mustn't have looked too far. Not that it'll interest you but The Greens are into all that drug decriminalising stuff, not legalising though
(From The Greens website)
rofl We each posted the exact same quote. I didn't even see your post beforehand.
Too slow esé. You snooze you looz in this kind of fast-paced, amphetamine driven political arena.
You guys have to remember that the best way to use your vote is to keep the worst party out. Fuck labor
If the ALP is so shitty, why does Australia seem to vote for them so frequently?
Both need a few tweeks to suit me though. Rudd should've gotten to finish his term, filthy slag.
I am going to vote for the Australian Sex Party because they won't censor our internet. There are other options though.
Vote independent.
Gillards' going to filter us and Abbot's an outdated idiot.
The majority of Democrat policies are relevant to our interests.
If not democrats, independents or greens will do fine too.
Shes gonna try to filter and spy on us but shes also going to bring in the national broadband network.
Anyway regardless of who wins this election Joe Hockey is most likely going to be the successor of whoever wins.
Also, check out these guys lol. They're a part of some Lyndon LaRouche bullshit;
http://www.cecaust.com.au/
http://www.cpa.org.au/
Good to know, as I despise Abbott even more than Gillard.
Ruddys carbon tax emission scheme didn't go through because the Greens and a few independents voted against it.
The current ALP government is the first one in quite a while. I wouldnt say people vote for them frequently.
I live in the second safest Labor seat in the country, so it doesnt matter who i vote for in the house of reps, but in the senate, i would vote LDP, probably the closest thing you can get to a libertarian party.
I believe the greens blocked it because it wasn't good enough, and were willing to put up an alternate, better solution.
Thoughts?
Anyway I'm going to go vote tomorrow, at the local early voting center so I dont have to put up with crowds.
Your suggesting Abbott will be better?
The lesser of two evil's, yes.
The implications of both labor and the greens being in power are just to crazy to comprehend.
Anyone who thinks Abbott is a good idea is nothing more than a fool.
Fuck Australian politics
This, but vote for the Sex Party anyway, states Sir Rolf.
:facepalm:
I hope your not serious. I don't even know where to begin...
But please inform me why the religious, conservative guy who has an ignorant view on the problems of the 21st century (climate change, RU486, broadband, sustainability, no gay love spring to mind instantly...did you see Abbott on Q&A last night?...Was hilarious!) is better than the other, admittedly, crappy party/stupid bitch?... who does share most of his idiocy but not to the full extent.
That also reminds me...Why are liberal and labour both against gay marriage? If I was gay I would be deeply insulted.
To be fair I think Abbott's a fuckwit too, if you think his views are a bit out there take a look at what Bob Brown is proposing ie. abortion up to the point of birth, no access to national parks, no public fishing, shoot up rooms....
As much as I want the NBN I'm willing to give it up to not to see labor and the greens helping each other pass their schemes.
The fact that the government has acknowledged same sex partnerships for years but are against making things easier for everyone and just allowing marriages, is rather stupid.
Not that this all matters too much. Greens won't get in either way.
"ban donations from the tobacco, alcohol and pharmaceutical industries to political parties."
God, that would piss the liberals off so fucking hard. Anybody know if labour take donations from those industries?
pass bills, labor will give them things in exchange.
Link to fishing crap
Don't you guys get fined for not voting properly?
That was the closest policy from the Greens site in regard to whats mentioned in that article...I somehow doubt they would actually ban all public fishing...But I suppose I can't put it past any political party to plan such things behind our backs.
And just another asshole, voting is anonymous. Pretty sure you just get fined if you are enrolled and don't show up.
I agree it sucks for fisherman though. But hey, like we agree, Greens will never get in for it to happen.
Other news, I suggest you all look at this link and see exactly where your preferences will be going (http://www.aec.gov.au/election/files/e2010-gvt-nsw.pdf) ...Don't trust anything they say on the websites. For instance, the greens say they are putting their preference of labour ahead of liberal, but what they don't mention is that labour is still their 32nd preference, not their 7th (greens candidates being 1 - 6).
I've got my little list written out so voting below the line will be quick and easy...Goes something like, greens, labour, sex party, democrats etc ...All the religious, conservative nutjobs are at the bottom with the independents in the middle. Don't see how it will matter after the labour preference though. Unless I'm missing something...
Then of course, theres the fact that in the past, the Greens have rather stupidly opposed back burning to combat bushfires. And they're still better than Labor or Liberal... and of course, Family First and Christian Democratic Party, states Rolf.
Rolf states Underdownland Politics is akin to two corrupt car salesmen trying to sell you the same broken down car.
What I find scary is that opinion polls are at 50-50. The election's tomorrow, too. If Abott wins, I will lose all faith in Australia's people.
Likewise.
I think the polls are a load of shit personally. I don't know a single person who participates in these so called 'polls'...And I question the integrity of the people that do.
Don't believe anything the media say to you.
House of reps - http://www.abc.net.au/elections/fede...renceswork.htm
The senate - http://www.abc.net.au/elections/fede...tingsystem.htm
Best hope in the house of reps nobody gets a majority before the better off parties get the chance to distribute their preference...It seems fair enough, though it is possible that your vote will attribute to nothing in an election someday...
The senate...Well, fuck, I don't fully understand how that works yet. Seems your vote becomes worth only a fraction of a vote once preferences start getting distributed.
Must say though; thank god for election blackout period!
Voting 84 times below the line wasn't too bad...Had my little list there so it only took a few minutes
People were asking if they could photocopy it and hand it out to everybody in the line. Hah...Top five choices went something like...
Greens
Labour
Socialist Alliance
Australian Democrats
Sex party
I've prepared a song titled 'Tony Abbott Die' just in case.
Hung parliament anyone?
wut de fook does this mean?
As it stands they are predicting liberal with 73 seats, labor with 72 and 5 to the other parties...I think its five anyway. So the coalition will hold the slight advantage but will be held thoroughly in check by the 5 other parties. The downside to this is that its possible not much will get done in the next 3 years...Or so some people are fearing. Though I think it has the possibility to be a good thing seeing as my opinion is that both major parties suck at the moment.
Im on this boat too. Too many shit bills are being proposed at the moment from both sides IMO. Now i normally dont like the Greens very much, but i think they and the independents will be quite useful in this term.
however, the number of greens in the senate is scary.