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Yes. It contains some DMT, but not very much. Someone told me the other day that a friend of theirs that is investigating this (solicited samples from interested parties, and used thin layer chromatography to assay the root stocks, from what I was told) says there's "little or no DMT" in Arundo donax rhizomes.

The paper that first found DMT and a few other indole alkaloids in Arundo donax (Ghosal) working in India (River Reed is used in Ayurvedic medicine) also found only trace amounts. You'd have to extract several kilograms to get a psychoactive dose of DMT. There are also several cardioactive glycosides and other substances that would produce annoying side effects if a crude extract were consumed - the effect of Arundo donax extract on heart muscle (another paper by Ghosal et. al.) gave me the impression that crude Arundo extracts are potentially dangerous. You'd have to resort to solvent extraction followed by column chromatography to extract pure DMT from the roots - a process probably requiring several liters of solvent just to produce one dose of DMT.

SMITH TA "Tryptamines and Related Compounds in Plants" Phytochemistry, 1977, Vol.16 pp 171-175

ABSTRACT: The occurrence of the tryptamines and related compounds in fungi and higher plants is listed on a taxonomic basis. Several of these amines have considerable physiological activity in higher animals.

Gramineae: Arundo donax L.(Leaf,Flower,Rhizome) Methoxy-N-methyl-Tryptamine DMT DMT-Methohydroxide Bufotenine DMT-N-oxide Bufotenidine Dehydrobufotenine Gramine Gramine-N-oxide Gramine methohydroxide

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_A Handbook of Alkaloids and Alkaloid Containing Plants_ Wiley Interscience, Raffauf QK898.A4 R34 (1970)

N,N-DMT GRAM-028A refs:1946, 573 N,N-DMT-5-MeO GRAM-030A Bufotenine GRAM-030A refs:1945 Gramine GRAM-016A

573 Aus J. Chem 17:1301 (1964) [Phalaris] 416 Aus J. Chem 19:893 (1966) [Phalaris]

1946 Dutta,SK;Ghosal,S _Chem.Ind._ (1967) p2046 1945 Moore,RM; Williams,JD; Chia,J _Chem.Abst._ 68:75704v (1968)

574 Ghosal,S; Mukhergee,BB _Chem.Ind._ (1965), 793 575 Morinato,H; Matsumoto,N _Am.Chem._ 692 p194 (1966)

_Tryptamine and related compounds in plants._ SMITH, TA. "Phytochemistry." vol.16 pp.171-175. (1977) QK861.P45

_The Occurrence of Indolealkylamine Alkaloids in Phalaris tuberosa L. and P. arundinacea L._ , Culvenor,Dal Bon & Smith "Australian Journal of Chemistry" 1964, Vol.17 pp.1301-4

_Indole alkaloids in plant hallucinogens_ Schultes, Richard Evans "Journal of Psychedelic Drugs" Jan-Mar 1976 p17

_Tryptamine and Related Compounds in Plants_ Terence A. Smith. "Phytochemistry" Vol. 16 pp. 171-175

_Alkaloid Bearing Plants and Their Alkaloids_ US Dept. Agriculture Technical Bulletin No. 1234 (1961) Willaman & Schubert