About that pedo' stuff.
culinaryoverlord
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I support free speech in all it's forms, but I really, really, hate pedo's. If I were a public defendant forced to defend a pedophile who had published something and been called up on charges for it, that would be the worst day of my life. I am not really sure what I would do, and am glad the odds of me ever having to make such a moral decision are slim.
Totse is a free speech forum of the highest order, no holes barred. I accept that. To speak out against things like DFG's guide, or the pedo porn in the erotica section would be pointless, and if I stop being a part of the community, then my voice will not be heard. Anyone who is interested in this type of thing could find it somewhere else anyway.
The detachment of the internet allows voice without consequence, and encouraging and enabling criminal actions has always been a part of totse, but man, I wish we could get by without this one thing. If someone has their wallet stolen, their identity stolen, has a bad trip and walks off a cliff, or ends up with a 4 foot crater in their back yard because of totse, I can deal with that. Given that, I will not speak out about content on this site or it's sources, but instead, against the concept of pedophilia, and the literature that enables and encourages it.
Children are different. Children need to be protected, nurtured, and allowed to grow without having to worry about their baybysitter turning them on to some porn and diddling them. Molesting a child damages them in ways that last for the rest of their lives. That damage leaves them open for further abuse and exploitation because they were not allowed to discover their sexual nature in a normal way. I could bang up a lot of copypasta to this effect, but the concept of child molestation being harmful is so obvious I hope I don't have to.
There is no kind or sensitive way to molest a child, any guide, fiction or fact, that states or implies otherwise is the result of pedo scumbags trying to justify their actions in a fictional environment of their own device. Children are sexually curious, but to interpret this as being ready for a sexual encounter with an adult is pure self indulgent fantasy.
Children exist in an incomplete universe, one which has yet to evolve into the real world of action and consequence. A child might act in a way that could be considered erotic, but it is without the awareness of the arousal this could inspire in an adult, and as such is not true sexuality, but just the clay from which it is formed.
Even if you accept the idea that pedophilia, like homosexuality, is not a choice, but something that is a basic part of a persons nature, this does not mean that acting upon those urges is not harmful. How many totseans have fantasized about killing someone for no good reason? I raised my hand too.
I believe that pedophilia is harmful, I have seen the results first hand, and it is not pretty. You don't want to live in a world of people who have been molested, it twists something inside them. The part of them that trusts people and makes open and caring relationships possible is distorted, and even though they know how it happened, they can't do a damn thing to stop the many ways it affects their lives.
You can be beaten, and rise above it, your mother might be like the one from Pink Floyds "the wall", but you can deal with it in time. But if someone molests you as a child you never really get over it, every time someone touches you, it starts all over again.
If you choose to indulge your dark side, and read a little pedo porn, then that is what it is, a little step over the line. I like chicks getting nailed by dogs and horses myself, when I'm in the mood for that kind of thing. But actively perpetuating the lie that there is some way to molest a child that is not harmful could have serious real world results, bad ones.
Please don't do it.
C/O
"I'm just going to go for a walk now, maybe look at some Christmas lights"
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I do not appeal to emotion, but rationality. I suppose I did say please, a minor emo content. Whenever you have the time. Bring it, I would love to hear a defense of pedophilia, a new one, from your particular point of view.
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"I have a new best friend, his name is Negrophobe"
That being said, I don't like the pedo shit either. It's out there all over the place, but I ignore it. The guide dfg wrote isn't even real pedo advice, and there better not be CP in the erotica forum. CP isn't allowed on totse.
Can I stop people from fucking children, no. Can I write about how people do it and how best to do it, yes. Does my writing that stuff harm the children, no. Because a real pedo already knows those things. So, in reality these guides are aimed at people who have children or people who take care of them.
Anyway, this is the Internet. I will remain or try to remain neutral on it. If I close myself to one area I will make bad judgements.
Oh btw I haven't even finished the guide
STFU puh leeeasssseeee.
You know you love wanking to hot 10 year old chicks.
I won't lie. I tried jerking off to some but I couldn't the best I could do was 14 ish. And according to my religion it's legal for me. I can go lower and still I would be normal compared to my fellow Muslim brothers.
Technically, you can't even call me a pedo ahahhaha. ISLAM RULES! [Only when it comes to boning little girls]
FYI I prefer models and I have no plans for doing little girls nor would I do them in future. Standards people, learn to have them. Aim high or die trying. VICTORIA SECRET OR NOTHING!
Also when I was 12 I knew what sex was and I knew I wouldn't to bone women. If a hot adult had come on to me I woulve loved that and not been affected in a negative way. So a little girl is no different and deserves no special treatment.
When I here about a kid being murdered it effects me about as much as when an adult is. That is to say I don't give a fuck about the kid and that emotional bullshit doesn't work with me.
Congratulations DFG. That is without a doubt the most retarded pile of shit I've ever read on this site. With mods like Dirty Sanchez around that is saying alot. Infract yourself.
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I lol'd. I thought about posting some images, but that would be against my duties so I am kind of restricted.
The original totse erotica had a section of text files called "Young and Old Together" that had some pretty perverted shit in it way back. Not that I'm saying we should open the door and start allowing that sort of shit here, but I thought I would just point it out.
I am in hell, making a snowman.
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Answer this for me. Do you have any logical reason for hating it that doesn't involve appealing to emotion? What age is acceptable to you? Is 18 ok but even a day less than 18 is wrong? I haven't seen you give a single logical or science based reason as to why it's wrong.
As for age, I am talking about pre pubescent children, if some 12 or 13 year old thinks they are ready for sex, go nuts, bang away. I am talking about when someone in a position of trust like a day care attendant, a babysitter, or a family member, abuses that trust by using a child for their own gratification.
Do I have a logical reason for hating pedophilia more than another crime, lets say, stealing an old lady's life savings? No, it is an emotional and moral stance and I cannot defend it as anything else. I hate it for the same reasons most people hate things, personal experience and a belief that it is against the better interests of humanity. Again, I will say that the damage pedophilia causes is self evident, and I eagerly await Negrophobe's defence of pedophiles, or anyone else's for that matter.
I refuse to detach myself from the emotional side of the argument. Have you evolved beyond hate? Do you speak out about those things that you believe are damaging to the ideals you choose to uphold because of simple logic? I hope not. Because cold rational arguments might sway a few, but hate has balls, hate gets shit done.
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"Hate, put it in your wash for brighter colors and whiter whites!"
And as for agreeing with bigbear, Fangly, the enema of my enemy is my friend.
But for chicks, they're going to start giving handjobs at around 11-12 years old, bj's around 13, and full sex around 15 anyway. Girls are not innocent little princesses. They have sex earlier and much more than males do. They're pretty much professionals by the time they hit 16. Boning them at an early age makes no difference.
This is usually a good rule of thumb for the popular/preppy crowd of females, can't be applied to all (obviously there will always be outliers). You guys should see some of the little whores in my town, most just became freshmen in highschool this year, the middle school is pretty bad though.
Nothing like being at the skate park and listening to some 13 y/o girl talk about how many times she's had anal.
Or conversations at the public library with odd people.
Random slut: "My parents are so pissed at me"
Me: "Why's that?"
slut: "Oh, I got drunk and high last night and gave some random guy a blowjob"
about 5 minutes later...
some guy: "Your birthday is soon? how old are you?"
slut: "Oh, I'm almost 14"