Civil Forfeiture

Big baby jesusBig baby jesus Regular
edited July 2010 in Spurious Generalities
ok I was reading cracked.com and this shit caught my eye:
Imagine you had your car stolen, but then fortune smiles upon you and the cops find it after the thief used it to smuggle 200 pounds of cocaine across the border, running over 30 children in the process while sexually assaulting the car itself.

You realize you're going to need to get all of its fluids replaced from a mechanic with a soft voice and gentle hands, but you still want it back, because hey, it's your car, right?



Yeeeah, there's some bad news: It has been sold to buy a new espresso machine for the station's break room.

It's called civil asset forfeiture. You probably already have heard of something like this, where the police get to seize the car and house of some drug kingpin and stick the money in the department's budget (that's criminal forfeiture).

But then there's this loophole where the police can seize anything they suspect has been used in a crime, even if it doesn't belong to the criminal, and even if there hasn't been a conviction.


"Let's take the jet. Those bootlegged DVDs from China had to get here somehow."

Then if you, as the actual owner of the goods, try to challenge it, the burden of proof is on you to prove you didn't know it was going to be used in a crime. That's civil forfeiture.
For the police, there is no legal requirement to prove "beyond reasonable doubt" that, say, your TV set was once used by a ring of Dutch pedophiles to view kiddie porn. They can simply take it, without ever giving it back, even if they never formally charge anyone for a crime.

You're Shitting Me!

In 2004, Zaher El-Ali, a Jordanian immigrant and U.S. citizen, sold a truck to a man who agreed to pay for it in installments. Before he could finish the payments though, the man was arrested for drunk driving and the truck was seized. Seeing as the car still legally belonged to Zaher (he still had the title), he demanded it back. The police refused, and possibly laughed.

Because civil forfeitures are so simple, over 40 percent of police executives admitted their budgets depend on cash from them. That means each year, those stations have a quota of forfeitures to fill and technically there is really no stopping them from filling it with YOUR Xbox.



Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_18620_6-completely-legal-ways-cops-can-screw-you.html#ixzz0tV6IXZYW

So that bolded part is pretty fucked up eh? What the hell happened to innocent until proven guilty? When did that turn into 'guilty for another's crime'?? This whole thing is making my fuckin head spin, anyway discuss.

Comments

  • Fuck the FBIFuck the FBI Regular
    edited July 2010
    That is fucking ridiculous. "oh hai ur car was used in sum.....uh......crime i needa sieze it, nigga"

    I imagine this is another way crooked cops line their pockets.
  • Big baby jesusBig baby jesus Regular
    edited July 2010
    And we're the niggers......:mad:
  • LSA KingLSA King Regular
    edited July 2010
    Gives a whole new meaning to "I fought the law and the, law Won!" Seriously, fuck the cops though. They act all para-military now and lost touch with the taxpayers they are supposed to protect and serve. This country claims you are innocent until proven guilty, but the media almost instantly can change that overnight.
  • AnonymousAnonymous Regular
    edited July 2010
    And we're the niggers......:mad:

    Yes you are. :mad:
  • Big baby jesusBig baby jesus Regular
    edited July 2010
    It's just a suspicion of mine that I am half-black, but I have good reason to presume as such. Even so, stfu foo
  • PigPig Regular
    edited July 2010
    Hey, let's not disrespect the police officers of this great nation. They're hard-working people.
  • Fuck the FBIFuck the FBI Regular
    edited July 2010
    Pig wrote: »
    Hey, let's not disrespect the police officers of this great nation. They're hard-working people.

    police-chief.jpg
    :facepalm:
  • AnonymousAnonymous Regular
    edited July 2010
    Pig wrote: »
    Hey, let's not disrespect the police officers of this great nation. They're hard-working people.

    You know reaching for a donut is a hard job. :rolleyes:
  • LSA KingLSA King Regular
    edited July 2010
    Pig wrote: »
    Hey, let's not disrespect the police officers of this great nation. They're hard-working people.



    Some of them actually are, but the vast majority are pieces of shit riding the rainbow courtesy of the uniform.
  • MorningsideMorningside Regular
    edited July 2010
    Just add that to the long list of ways the police can fuck you in the ass.
  • PigPig Regular
    edited July 2010
    You should respect your local law enforcement officers.
  • MorningsideMorningside Regular
    edited July 2010
    Law enforcement officers should respect the people they're being paid to protect.
  • PigPig Regular
    edited July 2010
    They're only trying to protect the good people of America from the evil scum of crime. If they arrest somebody, or are forced to take more physical measures, I'm sure it's for a justified reason.
  • MorningsideMorningside Regular
    edited July 2010
    Pig wrote: »
    They're only trying to rape the white people of Rape from niggers and raping themselves. If they rape somebody, or are forced to take more rapey measures, I'm sure it's for rape or profit.

    fixed?:confused:
  • PigPig Regular
    edited July 2010
    fixed?:confused:

    I think rape is profit, sir.
  • MantikoreMantikore Regular
    edited July 2010
    well, there has to be limitations to it. something tells me that even if they could, theyre not going to take a private jet or do that to a large business. that would just cause too much of a shitstorm, so i was thinking that with a pretty good lawyer, one can get your stuff back, if it is worth the lawyer
  • Fuck the FBIFuck the FBI Regular
    edited July 2010
    I would love to have a cop try and completely seize a company + profits because he saw the janitor smoking weed outside the back door.
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